The Early Methven Families of Scotland

and Methuen Families of England

 

    I've often wondered where the name of Methven (Methvin or it's derivatives) came from. The name was thought to have meant "bogstone" or "mead-stone", with mead a term describing a meadow or low-lying flat land. Some of the earliest spellings was Methfen in 1211, Methphen in 1280, Meffane 1444, Mathven in 1449, Methwynn in 1500, Meffon 1559 and Methvine 1670. "The traditional account of the origin of the Methvens (according to Sir Robert Douglas) is that a man of distinction accompanied Queen Margaret from Hungary, and being of singular merit, as well as high rank, became a mighty favorite with King Malcolm III (CaenMohr), who to induce him to stay in his kingdom, bestowed upon him the lands and barony of Methven, in Perthshire, where he settled, from which his prosterity assumed their surname; and to keep in remembrance their descent from Germany, they often carried their arms blazoned on the breast of a spread eagle."

    Early personages of the name included Robert de Methven, who witnessed a confirmation charter of David, bishop of St. Andrews, concerning the church of Wemyss in 1232-35. Sir. Roger de Methven of Perthshire rendered homage in 1296 to the English crown (King Edward I) and had his land restored. He was a witness to a grants in 1302 and 1319 of John Murray , and Thomas de Methfen held the office of chamberland of Aberdeen in 1340. John de Meffen was one of the commissioners who arranged a peace treaty between Scotland and England in 1451, and could have been the John Methfen, vicar of Edinburg, who had a safe conduct pass into England in 1454. (The Surnames of Scotland, Their Origin, Meaning and History by George F. Black, PhD., New York Public Library, 1946)

I. Patrick de Methven was proprietor of the lands and barony of Methven under King Alexander III. He was the father of Sir Roger de Methven

II. Sir Roger Methven (see above) was known as a man of great distinction in the service of King Robert Bruce. He married the widow of Malise, earl of Strathern, one of the richest fortunes in the kingdom and received the lands of Keillor. His wife died without having any children by Roger so the properties were returned to the family of Strathern. Sir Roger married another who gave him two sons Paul and William. The last recorded deed of Sir Roger was witnessing a charter from the countess of Strathern to Sir Robert Erskine, knight, for lands of Kintulloch in Perthshire in the beginning of the reign of King David Bruce. He died soon after and was succeeded by his oldest son, Paul de Methven.

IIIA. Paul de Methven, the oldest son of Sir Roger Methvin, was appointed ambassador extraordinary to conclude a peace treaty with England. He died at the end of King David Bruce's reign without children and was succeeded by his brother William de Methven.

IIIB. William de Methven died in the beginning of the reign of King Robert II and was succeeded by his son William de Methven.

IV. William de Methven received a charter under the great seal of King Robert II in 1376. He and his wife AEnota had a son John de Methven who succeeded him after his death in the reign of King Robert III.

V. John de Methven was appointed one of the ambassadors extraordinary to the court of England. He sold the castle of Methven and part of the lands to John, the Duke of Albany, which on the forfeiture of Duke Murdock in 1425, was passed to the Crown. (This remained property of the Crown until King James V gave them to his mother Queen Margaret, the sister of King Henry VIII of England, and Henry Stewart, the son of Lord Evandale, who was her husband. Henry Stewart was given the title Lord Methven in 1528.) John de Methven died in the reign of King James I and was succeeded by his son John de Methven

VI. John de Methven, having a liberal education, and great accomplishments, a doctor of the laws was employed in the service of the King James II and Scotland in negociating treaties. He had great influence on Scottish policies from 1438 until his death. In 1440, he was a principle secretaries of state and lord register of Scotland. On May 10, 1449, he was used as an ambassador to England to prolong the existing peace between Scotland and England. On April 20, 1450, John was appointed commissioner to the court of England to negotiate several affairs of state. From that time, he was involved in almost any political transaction of moment. He was appointed ambassador extraordinary to the court of England on July 27, 1451, and acquitted himself with ability, honor and integrity. He married a daughter of Sir John Haldane of Gleneagles, of an honorable family of Perthshire, and had a son John de Methven, who succeeded him upon his death in the reign of King James III.

VII. John de Methven had retained a portion of the family land in Pethshire. He married a daughter of John Blackadder of Tulliallan. He was one of the attornies or guardians of Patrick Blackadder of Tulliallan, a minor, July, 1502. He died soon after and was succeeded by his son Andrew de Methven.

VIII. Andrew de Methven was appointed a commissioner in a perambulation of the marches between the Cambuskenneth and Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan in 1505. He married Isabel, daughter of Robert Bruce and Marrion of Airth. They had John and Andrew.

IX. John de Methven was named in a charter under the great seal from King James V to Mr. Edmond Bruce of certain lands about Clackmannan. He and brother Andrew was enthusiastic promoters of the reformation, fled to England after Sir Wyshart was killed at St. Andrews for that very reason, during the ministry of Cardinal Beaton in Queen Mary's infancy. They were received by Queen Elizabeth who took John's son Paul under special protection.

X. Reverend Paul Methuen, a Scottish reformer, who was originally a baker in Dundee. "Although imperfectly educated, his eloquence and intimate acquaintance with scripture enabled him to render such good service to the protestant cause that he became obnoxious both to the prelates and the secret council; and the latter not only issued an order for his apprehension, but also forbade the people to listen to his orations or harbor him in their houses." He fled to England and was presented by Queen Elizabeth of England to preferments in the county of Somerset and was prebendary of the cathedral church of Wells. He married Anne Rogers of Cannington and died in 1606. They had a son, Anthony.

XI. Reverend Anthony Methuen, Vicar of Frome, was patronized by Queen Elizabeth. He was prebendary of Wells and Litchfield and acquired several estates. He married Jean Taylor, daughter of Thomas Taylor, Esquire of Bristol and had three sons, Paul, his heir, Anthony and Francis. He died in 1640 and was buried under a handsome monument in the parish church of Frome in Somersetshire, and was succeeded by Paul. Anthony, the second son of the Reverend Anthony Methuen settled in Bradford where he died in 1684. His descendants stayed there and one named Paul, married Sarah, the daughter of William Gould of Upway and Fleet, Coutny of Dorset in 1697. They had three sons and eight daughters; Henry, married Elizabeth, the daughter of Thomas Farmer, Esquire of Bromsgrove and had Paul, who was called to the Bar and was a member of the Society at Lincoln's Inn. Paul died unmarried in 1792 and his aunts became the representatives of this branch of the Methuens. His aunts included Barbara, who married Edward Poore, Esq. of Rushall and their second son John Methuen was created a Baronet in 1795, Elizabeth (who married the Reverend Thomas Leir of Ditcheat in 1737 and had Elizabeth in 1736 who married the Rev. C. Lockyer-Maby, Thomas, born April 14, 1738 and married Mary Kington and had six sons and three Daughters, William 1739, Hester in 1742 ,John-Methuen in 1744, and Paul-Methuen in 1756), Gratiana married Reverend J. Rogers, Vicar of Warminster in 1747, and Mary who married W. Stevens, Esq. of Frankleigh in 1754, and whose daughter became the wife of Samuel Bailward, Esq. of Horsington in 1779.

XII. Paul Methuen, was Esquire of Bradford and Bishop's Cannings in Wiltshire. He married Grace, daughter of Sir John Ashe of Freshford. He took over the business of his father-in-law, and became the greatest cloathier of his time. They had five sons and one daughter. John, Anthony, Paul, William, Turner and Elizabeth. Paul died in 1667, after having amassed a large fortune and was succeeded by his eldest son John Methuen.

XIII.(A) John Methuen his successor, see below.

XIII.(B) Anthony Methuen, who inherited his father's estate at Bradford and other manors in Somersetshire (Cheddon, Tikpain, Withy, Beckington and Freshford). He married Gertrude, daughter of Thomas Moore, esquire of Spargrove. He died in 1717 leaving his only son

XIV Thomas Methuen , who married Anne, daughter of Isaac Selfe, esquire of Beanacre Co. Wilts. Thomas died in 1737 leaving his son Paul of Corsham, heir to his cousin Sir Paul Methuen. This Paul Methuen purchased the Lordship of the Manor of Bradford from Mr. Poulett Wright in 1774, and was a member in the last parliment in 1767 for Warwick. He married Christian, daughter of Sir George Cobb of Adderbury, in the county of Oxford, and had Paul-Cobb, Thomas and Christian, who married Frederick, the 2nd Lord Boston.

XV. Paul-Cobb Methuen, Esquire, married Matilda, daughter of Sir Thomas Gooch and Anne Atwood of Benacre Hall, county of Suffolk on April 20, 1776, and had :

XVIA  Paul Methuen (born June 21, 1779) was educated at Eton 1787-1796 and Oxford in 1797, served in Parliment for Wilts 1812-1819 and North Wilts 1833-1837, High Sheriff of Wilts 1831-1832, He was given the title Baron Metheun of Corsham on July 13, 1838. Paul married July 10, 1810 Jane Dorothea the oldest daughter of Sir Henry Paulet. She died March 15, 1846, age 57 and he died Sept. 14, 1849, age 70. Their children were, Paul Mildmay, (January 14, 1814-July 16, 1837, Frederick Henry Paul , St. John George Paul (November 23, 1819-June 17, 1899, and married Anne Sergison, and had 1) Rev. St. John Frederick Charles Methuen, the Rector of Vange who married Louisa Elizabeth, the daughter of Major-Gen. James Hyde Champion on January 19, 1892 and had St. John Arthur Paul Methuen on Nov 19, 1892, Charles Leslie born March 4, 1901, Margaret Dorothea born May 17, 1894, Kathleen Louisa Mildmay born Auguat 25, 1896, Frances Mary Hyde born July 29, 1899 amd Beatrice Ethyl Gertrude Methuen born April 28, 1905) and Jane Matilda (who married David Lewis on Dec 1, 1849 and died August 9, 1881. 2) Janette Catherine Kemeys Methuen, 3) Annie Mildmay Methuen, 4) Mary Georgiana Methuen married August 10, 1893 the Reverend Leonard Hugh Evans and had Bertha May Evans on November 1, 1895). Their son,

XVII Frederick Henry Paul Methuen, was the Second Baron Methuen of Corsham, born Feb 23, 1818 at Corsham. He served as an officer in the Army until 1840 and was Militia ADC to the Queen, as a Colonial from 1860 until his death. He was a Lord in Waiting and Provincial Grandmaster of Freemasons in Wiltshire. He married Anna Horatia Caroline, the only daughter of John Sanford, vicar of Nynehead, Somerset. Their children were Paul Sanford, Frederick George Paul (Dec 10, 1851-July 1931), Georgiana Horatia Sanford (died July 3, 1926) and Jane Charlotte (married Col. Richard Southwell Stapleton-Cotton on Oct 18, 1870 and she died August 10, 1924). The 2nd Baron Methuen died Sept 26, 1891 age 73 at Corsham House,Wiltshire and she died March 3, 1899 at Somerford Hall age 76. Their son was:

XVIII Paul Sanford Methuen, the Third Baron Methuen. See link to this important military leader. Lord Methuen was married twice, first to Evelyn, the eldest daughter of Sir Frederick Hutchingson Hervey-Bathurst, third baronet of Clarandon Park, Wiltshire. They were married in 1878 until her death in 1879. He then married in 1884, his cousin Mary Ethel, the second daughter of William Ayshford Sanford, of Nynehead Court. They had three sons and four daughters. Lord Methuen died at Corsham Court on October 30, 1932 and was succeeded by his son Paul Ayshford, the 4th Baron Methuen. Lord Methuen was considered as a man of great courage, fighting in the lines even with his high rank, chivalrous, kindly, generous with high standards of duty. His children included Paul Ayshford (the Fourth Lord Methuen), Anthony Paul, Laurence Paul Methuen-Campbell, Ethel Christian and Ellen Seymore Methuen. Lord Paul Sanford Methuen

XIXA Paul Ayshford Methuen, the Fourth Baron Methuen. Born September 29, 1886, he was a painter who was educated at Eton, New College and Oxford, where he received his B.A. in 1910 and M.A. in 1914. He served in France in World War I as a Major of the Scots Guard and in World War II as Staff Captain London District. He was a Trustee of the National Gallery from 1938-1945 and the Tate Gallery from 1940-1945. He was also a member of the Royal Fine Arts Commn. He married Eleanor (Norah) daughter of William John Hennessey of Rudgwick, Sussex, England.

XIXB Anthony Paul Methuen was born June 26, 1891 and educated at Wellington College and New College Oxford. He served in World War I as a Captain in the Scots Guard where he was wounded. He was a chartered architect and was married July 22, 1920 to Grace J.P. Wilts, the eldest daughter of Sir Richard Durning Holt. They had Anthony Richard Paul Methuen (May 14, 1923-December 8, 1934), Anthony John Methuen (born Oct 26, 1925, served in Scots Guard and Royal Signals from 1943-47, educated at Winchester and Royal Agriculture College), Elizabeth Penelope Methuen (born July 4, 1928) and Robert Alexander Holt Methuen (born July 22, 1931 and educated at Shrewsbury and Trinity College Cambridge).

XIXC Laurence Paul Methuen-Campbell was born September 18, 1898 and assumed the additional surname of Campbell. He was educated at Cambridge and was a member of the Royal Company of Archers (Queen's Body Guard for Scotland) and was a Lieutenant of the Scots Guard. He married 1st. Hon. Olive Douglas Campbell, the only child of 4th Baron Blythswood on February 23, 1927 and had the following children: a) Christopher Paul Mansel Campbell, (born March 23, 1928 and married Oona Cecily, the only daughter of John Dalrymple Winn Treherne, of Otley High House on October 331, 1950 and had Joanna Olive Campbell on September 9, 1951) b) David Archibald James Campbell born August 23, 1929, c) Diana Evelyn Kitty Campbell (born July 25, 1932 and married Captain Patrick Michael Ernest David McNair-Wilson on April 11, 1953 and had Jennifer Jean Campbell on January 26, 1954) d) Daphne Mary Jean Campbell born September 29, 1935. After his wife's death on March 8, 1949, Laurence Paul Methuen-Campbell married 2nd. Lady Maureen Margaret Brabazon, the oldest daughter of the 13th Earl of Meath, on December 11, 1950 and had Caroline Aileen Campbell, born September 27, 1952.

XIXD) Ethel Christian Methuen (March 7, 1889-April 26, 1932) married Hon. Geoffrey William Algernon Howard, son of the 9th Earl of Carlisle on May 15, 1915.

XIXE) Ellen Seymore Methuen was born November 23, 1893 and married Captain Cyril Gwynne Sedley Barnes on November 1, 1924.

 

The Other children of Paul-Cobb Methuen

XVIB) Thomas Anthony Methuen (rector of All-Cannings and Garsden, county of Wilts, chaplain to his Grace, the Duke of Beaufort), who married Eliza Maria Plumtre

XVIC) Charles-Lucas Methuen (captain in the Army, died in 1826),

XVID) Rev. John-Andrew Methuen,

XVIE) Maltilda Methuen (married George Do Grey, Lord Walsingham and died in 1831),

XVIF) Anne-Christian Methuen (died unmarried in 1828),

XVIG) Gertrude-Grace Methuen (married Lord Edward O'Brien and died in 1820)

XVIH) Catherine Matilda Methuen (married John-Pemberton Plumptre, esquire of Fredville on April 2, 1818 and had Catherine-Emma, Cecilia-Matilda and Matilda-Charlotte-Louisa) XVII) Cecilia-Penelope Methuen (married Rev. Francis-James Noel)

XVIJ) two other daughters died young


XIIIA. John Methuen, the oldest son of Paul and Grace Ashe Methuen of Bishop's Corner, was a man of great diplomatic abilities. He matriculated at Oxford University at the age of 15. He was one of the eminent members of the privey council and Lord Chancellor of Ireland, in the reigns of King William and Queen Anne. He was also frequently employed in embassies to Portugal and in 1703 concluded a treaty with the court of Lisbon that was beneficial to trade and commerce for Great Britain. He was granted full powers to compose treaties with Charles III the King of Spain. He also represented the Borough of Devinzes in five Parliments. John married Mary, the daughter of Seacole Chevers, Esquire, of Cummerford in Wiltshire, and had three sons and two daughters. They were: Paul, his first born and heir, Henry and John who both died young, Mary who married Humphrey Simpson, Esquire, Sir Richard Anderson and Sir Brownlow Sherrard, and Isabella, who died unmarried at age 29 and was buried in Westminster Abbey on April 12, 1711. He was a staunch whig. John Methvuen died while serving his country in Lisbon, Portugal in 1706. His remains were brought back to London and interred at Westminster Abbey.

XIV. Paul Methuen, born 1672, was John' oldest son, and was even a greater diplomat than his father. He was considered a man of great integrity, having many outstanding accomplishments, having held many high offices. He first was appointed envoy to the King of Portugal at the age of twenty, in 1692 and served as his secretary until 1697, until his father started serving King William in Ireland. Paul, between 1697 and 1705, served as envoy to Charles III, King of Spain, and ambassador to the emperor or Morocco, went to Gilbraltar to mediate the differences between the prince of Hesse and England. He was also sent on a commisssion to Tangier and Tetuan in Barbary and attended the King of Spain on order from Queen Anne. He also served on an expedition to Catalonia and finally returned to England in 1705 after Barcelona had surrendered and had the honor to receive the queen's approval of all his services. Paul took over his father's position in Portugal until 1705, when he was appointed as envoy to the court of Savoy, but after his father's death in 1706, he returned to Lisbon as ambassador-extraordinary and minister plenipotentiary to the King of Portugal, helping to strengthen the bond between England and Portugal. In November, 1709, he was appointed one of the lords of the Admiralty, and then transferred in October1714 to the Treasury and as a privy counsellor. He served there until April 1717. Also in 1714, he was sent ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary to the King of Spain. In 1716, Paul Methuen, he arose to the high office of a pricipal Secretary of State, and in 1720 was made comptroller of the King's household. He was installed as Knight of the Bath in 1725 on the order of King George I, and made the Treasurer of the household, which he resigned in 1730, retiring to private life. Sir Paul Methuen died unmarried in 1757 at age 85, and was interred in Westminster Abbey next to his father. His wealth was estimated at 250,000l., of which 50,000l in guineas was found tied up in bags in his house. The dedication by Steele in the 7th volume of "Spectator" to Paul Methuen praises his part, "as British ambassador, in promoting commerce between Britian and Portugal, and the military reknown which he won while minister at Savoy. It also records his graceful address in horsemanship, the use of the sword, and dancing, as well as general hospitality. He possessed a considerable knowledge of foreign languages and of the best authors in the chief European countries." This ended the male line of John, the eldest son of "Paul Methwin of Bradford" He willed his estates to Paul Methuen, Esquire of Corsham, the son of his first cousin Thomas Methuen.


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